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Chapter 793, grassland population problem

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    Hearing Emperor Hongzhi's question, Liu Jin naturally knew what Emperor Hongzhi was thinking at this time. He thought about it and said, "I was just thinking about what will happen in the grassland in a few decades, a hundred, or even hundreds of years."

    "Oh, that's right, let's talk about it."

    When Emperor Hongzhi heard this, he immediately understood that Liu Jin was changing the subject, which was exactly what he wanted.

    "Let these civil servants worry about it and talk about other things first."

    "Your Majesty, the grassland is included in the territory of our Ming Dynasty and has close contacts with our inland. Through trade, the grassland herdsmen can easily obtain a large amount of food, salt, tea and other materials needed for daily life."

    "Coupled with the turmoil of war, the population of this grassland will continue to expand in the future. Today, the grassland is vast, and the total number of herders may not be 1 million, but in the next twenty, fifty, or one million  Where is the year?"

    "There may be five or ten million herders on the grassland. What kind of huge impact will it have on our Ming Dynasty?"

    Liu Jin came here mainly to discuss with Emperor Hongzhi the migration of prairie people to Australia and South Golden Continent.

    There is no need to move too much at one time. A certain proportion of the population will be moved out every year. If you persist for many years, you will always maintain the grassland population at a certain scale and number.

    This can not only maintain the stability of the grassland, but also control the population and the number of livestock. It can maintain the environment of the grassland and prevent large-scale desertification like in later generations.

    As for the expedition to the Western Regions, is this important?

    It doesn¡¯t matter whether it¡¯s earlier or later. For Ming Dynasty, the meat of the Western Regions can be eaten at any time and it¡¯s easy to conquer. This is the real test for long-term stable rule.

    After hearing Liu Jin's words, everyone immediately looked at Liu Jin. When everyone was discussing whether to attack the Western Regions, Liu Jin was already thinking about what would happen in the northern grasslands and the Western Regions in a few decades or hundreds of years.  .

    At the same time, everyone immediately realized the importance of what Liu Jin said.

    How can the population of the grassland continue to increase like the Central Plains? The consequences can be imagined with your toes. By then, will the Ming Dynasty be able to control the grassland as easily as it does now?

    "Keep talking."

    Emperor Hongzhi thought deeply and motioned for Liu Jin to continue.

    "Your Majesty, gentlemen~"

    "The grassland in the north of me is very vast. Please look at the map. From the Great Wall to the north, all the way to this vast area, it basically belongs to the grassland area, and the area is so vast."

    "But since ancient times, the number of people living on this vast land has always been very rare. The number of people in the entire northern grassland is around one million."

    ¡°It¡¯s hard to imagine that such a vast area has a population of only one million.¡±

    "But this is the current situation on the grassland. The land is vast and sparsely populated. Herders live in pursuit of water and grass. There are few people and there are more cattle and horses than people."

    Liu Jin came to the huge map and began to explain it.

    After listening to this, everyone nodded. The Ming government has made statistics on the herdsmen on the grassland. The current number of herdsmen in the grassland province is not even one million. The total number of herdsmen is only more than 500,000. If you include Wala and others, there may be some.  million.

    "Why is the population so sparsely populated in such a vast area?"

    "There are many factors involved, among which the most important factors are several. One is that the grassland people are nomadic people who make a living by grazing and need a large amount of pasture for grazing."

    ¡°A few acres of land in our customs is enough to feed a family, but on the grassland, hundreds or thousands of acres of grassland may not be enough for a family of herders to graze.¡±

    ¡°Their lifestyle determines that they need a lot of pasture, and it also determines that it is difficult for their population to grow.¡±

    "The second is war. Since ancient times, grassland people have been fond of robbery. Not only for us in the Ming Dynasty, but also among their internal tribes. In addition, they have invaded a large number of countries and regions in vast areas such as the Western Regions.  .¡±

    "The long-term war, on the one hand, created their tough habits, and on the other hand, it caused a large number of their people to die in the war."

    "In addition, the medical technology of the grassland people is very poor. When they get sick, they often don't see a doctor and can only resign themselves to fate. This also leads to a very high mortality rate."

    "Of course it's winter on the grassland.Month after month, won't they also form a powerful force overseas, and then they will pose a threat to our Ming Dynasty.  "

    "Your Majesty, there is absolutely no need to worry about this."

    "The world is very big. Australia alone is not as big as ours. Such a vast place is enough for thousands of people to graze."

    "The same is true in Golden Continent and Africa. These places have very high-quality pastures and are very suitable for grazing."

    "And overseas, even if the population increases in the future, it will not pose a threat to our Ming Dynasty. Will they still build ships to attack our Ming Dynasty?"

    "They are cavalry on the grassland, but what if they go to the sea?"

    "Can they still ride horses to fight naval battles?"

    "What's more, when we immigrate them, we can also mix them with our Han immigrants, and at the same time change their nomadic ways, change nomadic herding to settled grazing, demarcate pastures, and settle them down."

    "I think as long as this policy continues to be implemented, not only will we no longer have to worry about them threatening our Ming Dynasty, but in a few hundred years, they will probably be no different from the Han people in our customs."

    "And by grazing around the world, the number of cattle and sheep they graze can greatly increase. At that time, they will not only be able to meet the needs of the people of the Ming Dynasty for meat, but also be able to produce more wool to meet the needs of the textile industry of the Ming Dynasty.  "

    "The most important thing is that the grassland herdsmen are fierce. Wherever they are, our Ming Dynasty's rule will be more stable. We don't even need to deliberately expand our territory. Wherever they graze, they can become  My territory of the Ming Dynasty.¡±

    Liu Jin thought for a while and said.

    You can¡¯t make waste even on the grassland. Are these immigrants afraid that they will make waste when they go overseas?

    "After these immigrants go to Australia, hundreds of years later, even if there are millions of prairie people in Australia, will they still be able to ride back to the Ming Dynasty on horseback?

    If we let the good days pass, who will rebel?

    What's more, let alone hundreds of years, in a few decades, with the development of Ming Capital and the development of new technologies, the nomads will have nothing to fear.

    The era of war horses and scimitars is gradually coming to an end. The next era is the era of giant ships and cannons. There is no need to worry about this problem at all.

    Relocating them is also to protect the northern grasslands and prevent desertification. It is not to worry about how much impact they will have on the Ming Dynasty.

    With Ming¡¯s current strength, coupled with the fact that it has embarked on the path of capitalism and the development of science and technology and industrialization, there is no need to worry about these at all.

    "It's best to let me graze honestly. If there is any dissatisfaction, Daming can easily suppress it."

    ¡°Immigrate overseas?¡±

    Even though I fell into deep thought and thought about it, it seemed that this was indeed a good idea.

    By migrating the excess population overseas and always controlling a certain number, there will naturally be no problems.

    "Your Majesty, I think what Liu Jin said is reasonable."

    "Just like the Western Regions, it is easy for the Ming Dynasty to conquer the Western Regions, but if you want to rule the Western Regions for a long time, you must not only move a large number of Han people to the Western Regions, but also continuously reduce the original grassland people in the Western Regions, so that long-term stability can be achieved."

    Xie Qian stood up and expressed his support.

    " However, I did not forget to remind Emperor Hongzhi about the Western Regions. It is very easy to conquer the Western Regions and can be conquered easily. As for long-term rule, it is almost the same as here on the grassland.

    Relocating the Han people and relocating the original people from the Western Regions is to change the population structure, so that the rule here can be consolidated for a long time.

    "Your Majesty, what Liu Jin said is very reasonable, but if we move the prairie people to Australia and Golden Continent, will they be willing to move out?"

    Li Dongyang thought for a while and said, "Will this matter force them to rebel?"

    "Forced them to rebel?"

    ¡°It¡¯s easier to deal with rebellion now than later, not to mention they don¡¯t dare to rebel at all.¡±

    Liu Jin said very confidently.

    How many people are left on the grassland?

    There are not many men left, just some old, weak, women and children. How dare they rebel against the Ming Dynasty?

    "If a few decades pass, maybe they will really dare to rebel. Now, if Ming Dynasty wants them to go east, they will never dare to go west.  (Remember the website address: www.hlnovel.com
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